Copy futures trades across Rithmic and Tradovate accounts
Rithmic is what most futures prop firms run on, and some issue Tradovate logins instead. Tradeus connects both, and a Rithmic account and a Tradovate account can sit in the same copy group or follow the same TradingView alert. Below: how each connects, which contract an alert lands on, how size is set per account, and what is left to you.
Rithmic and Tradovate accounts in one group
A prop account lives on the platform its login was issued for, and a personal login will not show the accounts a firm issued. Rithmic is what most futures prop firms run on; some issue Tradovate logins instead. Here a futures leader takes futures followers on either platform, so a Rithmic evaluation and a Tradovate funded account at another firm can share one copy group. CFD accounts cannot join that group: a micro contract and a lot of an index CFD are different instruments, and the account picker greys them out.
Connecting a Rithmic login
Rithmic asks for a username, a password, a system and a gateway, and the last two come from your firm. The system is the one on your R|Trader Pro login screen, picked from Rithmic's own list; many firms run a system of their own, and Rithmic Paper Trading is Rithmic's own simulated system. Rithmic 01 is live money, and there is no read-only stage for it: once a live account follows a strategy or a copy group, it trades real money. The gateway list has 13 regional entry points, with Core in Chicago as the default, and a wrong one usually refuses the login rather than failing quietly. The same username on two systems counts as two logins. Accounts appear under the connection by themselves, and your firm's own platform keeps working beside it.
Connecting a Tradovate login
Tradovate connects by OAuth. You log in at Tradovate, and Tradeus stores the token that comes back, encrypted, never your password. Tradovate runs two deployments that cannot see each other's accounts, with simulated prop-firm money on one and self-funded money on the other. After you approve, both are checked, and accounts found on both become two connections. The cost is the token. It lives about 90 minutes and Tradovate issues no refresh token, so Tradeus renews it while the connection is open. If the connection stays closed longer than that, or a broker outage blocks the renewals, it shows Authorization expired, and nothing routes until you press Re-authorize.
From MNQ1! to a contract month
Whether the alert's ticker arrives as CME_MINI:MNQ1! or as MNQ1!, Tradeus drops the exchange prefix and the continuous-contract mark, so both are read as MNQ. A dated ticker such as MNQM2026 is left as it is. Unless you saved a symbol mapping for the account, its broker connection then picks the contract when the order is placed, and here the two platforms differ. On Tradovate, MNQ goes to the month Tradovate itself marks as the front month, never one already in its delivery period or about to expire, so around a roll it follows Tradovate to the new contract. A dated ticker goes to exactly that month, and is refused if that month is already in its delivery period. On Rithmic, Tradeus asks Rithmic for the front month of the root, once per symbol per session, and a dated ticker goes there too. Around an expiry, check which month each account holds on either platform.
Size is set per account, not per signal
One signal does not have to mean one size everywhere. On a strategy, size belongs to the subscription, one account following one strategy: the alert's own quantity times a factor, a fixed number of contracts, a fixed amount of risk per trade, or a percentage of the balance. In a copy group, every follower is capped by its own max contracts on every plan. On Manual it copies the leader one for one under that cap; on Algo and Unlimited it can also carry its own risk per trade. Risk sizing works contracts back from the stop distance, so it needs a stop, and it knows the point value of the listed US futures, MNQ, NQ, MES and ES among them. Futures stay whole contracts, so a wide stop and a small budget can round to zero, which the event log shows as a rejection.
What it costs, and what it leaves to you
No plan counts broker connections, source accounts or target accounts, so one funded account or fifteen costs the same; the figures are on the pricing page. The copier is on every plan. The TradingView webhook and dollar-risk sizing need Algo or Unlimited. A daily loss limit you set on an account holds whether the order came from an alert, the copier or your own hand, but it is re-read about every five seconds rather than weighed against each order, so a fast market can carry the loss past it before the account locks. Whether your firm permits copying or automation on your account is the firm's decision. Read your own account's terms before you connect it.
The facts, in one place
- Futures platforms you can connect
- Rithmic and Tradovate
- Futures platforms not connectable
- TopstepX on ProjectX, listed but not selectable; NinjaTrader
- What Rithmic asks for
- Username, password, system, gateway
- What Tradovate asks for
- Nothing here: you log in at Tradovate, and no password is stored
- CME_MINI:MNQ1! or MNQ1! in an alert
- Read as MNQ; without a saved mapping, the broker connection picks the contract month
- Accounts counted on any plan
- None: connections, source and target accounts are uncounted
- Daily loss limit
- If you set one: re-read about every five seconds, not weighed against each order
Checked against the product on 15 October 2026. If something here no longer matches what you see, tell us.
Questions people ask first
Can one copy group hold both Rithmic and Tradovate accounts?
Yes. Both are futures platforms, and a futures leader takes futures followers on either, so one group can hold a Rithmic account and a Tradovate account at different firms. CFD accounts cannot join it. Whether a trade you place by hand on the leader is copied depends on the leader's broker rather than on a setting in the group, and the readiness panel says which case you are in before you trade. The copier pages in the handbook have the details.
Which contract does an MNQ alert trade?
Unless you saved a symbol mapping for that account, it is the one the account's broker connection picks when the order is placed. An MNQ1! ticker is read as MNQ. On Tradovate that goes to the month Tradovate marks as the front month, so around a roll it follows Tradovate to the new contract; send a dated ticker such as MNQM2026 to name the month yourself, which is refused if that month is already in its delivery period. On Rithmic, Tradeus asks Rithmic for the front month once per symbol per session, and a dated ticker is sent to that front month as well, so check which month each account holds around an expiry there too.
Does my prop firm allow a trade copier?
That is your firm's decision, not ours, and it can differ between accounts at the same firm and change over time. We do not publish a list of which firms permit copying or automation, because we cannot keep one true. Read your own account's terms before you connect it. Mechanically, a firm-issued Rithmic or Tradovate login connects exactly like any other login on that platform, and its accounts appear the same way.
Can I connect TopstepX or NinjaTrader?
Not today. TopstepX runs on ProjectX, and that connection is built but has not been verified against a real account, so it is listed and cannot be selected. NinjaTrader is not supported. If an account can only be reached through one of those, this copier cannot copy to it, and that is worth knowing before you pay for anything rather than after.
Do stops land at the same price on every account?
For a stop sent with an alert, yes, where the broker takes a price. A stop and target from your alert go out as the price you wrote, so every account in the group rests on the same level and leaves the trade in the same move. Rithmic accepts only a distance when the order goes in, so on a Rithmic account the level follows that account's own fill, and the event log says so. Where a broker cannot hold a stop at all, the log names that position as unprotected.
Where to go from here
Tradovate and Rithmic accounts, in the same copy group.
Futures accounts on either platform can lead or follow, each sized for itself. Start with one evaluation before a funded account.